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Fact-checking on insurance company profits

The Associated Press will land on the White House enemies list along with Fox News with more reporting like this:

"Fact Check: Health insurers profits 35th of 500."

"In the health care debate, Democrats and their allies have gone after insurance companies as rapacious profiteers making 'immoral' and 'obscene' returns while 'the bodies pile up,' the AP story, published in our print edition today, leads.

"But in pillorying insurers over profits, the critics are on shaky ground. Ledgers tell a different reality."

Maybe the White House and congressional leaders believe any profits are immoral and obscene. More likely, however, they know they can build support for the "public option" component of health-care reform by attacking companies in the private insurance market -- even if they have to distort the facts.

It's not a new strategy. The Bush White House cast blame for rising health-care costs at "trial lawyers." The Obama White House has its own targets. And it doesn't like media organizations that won't join in. Maybe AP correspondents will find it harder to get interviews with key administration officials after this.

Related: PolitiFact called President Obama on a false statement about insurance company profits back in July.

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Andrew Clark

October 26, 2009 - 10:20 am EDT

That's a rather odd story. On the one had they say, right there in the headline, that the health insurance industry is one of the healthiest in the country, in the top 10% apparently, and then they write a lot about how it's supposedly suffering.

Doug

October 26, 2009 - 10:46 am EDT

The point isn't that the health insurance industry is hurting. It's that accusing it of making immoral and obscene profits, or even record profits, isn't supported by the facts.

So why are those charges being made?

It's a commentary on how politicians will distort the truth to achieve their objectives.

Which means it's an old story, new circumstances.

Andrew Brod

October 26, 2009 - 12:01 pm EDT

There's a world of difference between a fact-checking story by the AP and what Fox News does. So I'm assuming you understand that, with your tongue firmly planted in your cheek.

So, old story/new circumstances. What's also an old story is getting profits wrong. When I worked at the AMA in the late '80s, the doctors who ran the place were convinced that the medical-malpractice crisis was a creation of the insurance companies, whose profits were obviously obscene. And perhaps they were when expressed in dollars. But not when expressed, as they should be, as a rate of return or a percentage of revenues. So I'm not surprised that the same mistake is being made now.

The accusation of "obscene" profits is an important populist rallying cry, used mostly by the left but increasingly by the right as well. Both O'Reilly and Beck tap aggressively into populist sentiment. In any case, the rallying cry is often wrong. More importantly, it's often beside the point. What matters about health insurers is their actions, not their profits. I mean, sure, if their profit margins were huge, then that'd be another thing to complain about. But high profits or low profits, what health insurers DO is the problem. Maybe they do what they do precisely because their margins are relatively thin. Who cares? The point of reform is their behavior.

Doug

October 26, 2009 - 12:34 pm EDT

Sure, there's a difference. As some of the other networks do, the Fox lineup includes commentary/opinion programs, like Beck and Hannity. These guys are hostile to the Obama administration. Apparently, that's the real source of the White House's ire and its punitive response toward Fox.

Andrew Clark

October 26, 2009 - 12:35 pm EDT

Alright, fair enough. The left is exaggerating the "obscene" profits of insurance companies. Of course, the right is also saying government-run insurance can't work while supporting Medicare.

It's also worth pointing out that profit margins don't tell the whole story. Wal-mart's are in the 3-4% range and no one denies that they make a ton of money. As recently as 2005, average newspaper profit margins were 20%, yet no one would call your industry healthy one.

I also agree that the actions of the industry are the problem more than profits. Despite the rhetoric, the legislation reflects this idea too as it preserves the private insurance system but adds regulation.

brian444

October 26, 2009 - 12:33 pm EDT

This is potentially due to a stupid headline writer. The only reference in the article is this passage:

Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin last year, placing them 35th on the Fortune 500 list of top industries. As is typical, other health sectors did much better — drugs and medical products and services were both in the top 10.

That doesn't say, of course, that there are 500 industries.

Andrew Clark

October 26, 2009 - 12:39 pm EDT

Good catch, Brian, that was a glaring error of the headline writer. It was also a mistake of the writer to compare insurance companies to drug and medical products. Selling patentable products (the patents being especially important to the drug industry) creates different conditions and opportunities for monopoly rents that would be much harder to come by in providing a service like insurance coverage.

brian444

October 26, 2009 - 12:41 pm EDT

It turns out I was right (as usual). There are 53 industries on the Fortune 500 list, found here:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2009/performers/indust...

Connie Mack Jr

October 26, 2009 - 1:57 pm EDT

" Beware of those who seek profit in Politics and Religion! Uh! And those who seek massive profit off dying and sick individuals!" * Paraphasing a well known political witchdoctor

Doug Johnson

October 27, 2009 - 2:23 am EDT

Newspapers, circulation down 10% this year, maybe if they fitted their product to 100% of the customers, instead of the 20% they cater to, they would be health!
I never seen a sign at Wally World, that told 80% of the people we do not want your business.
That's exactly what newspapers do!
CNN who invented cable news, does the same thing, noticed their rating, falling like a rock.
Maybe if we had some newspaper folks hostile toward the Raleigh Mafia, the state would not be in the mess its in!
By the way, the N@O is catching all kinds of heat for bring up the Easley mess?
So you are not suppose to carry the news?
Maybe we should call them, lack of newspapers.

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