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Perdue stunner

Today's announcement by Gov. Bev Perdue that she won't run for re-election is a shocker.

She would face an uphill race because of the economy, but I would have given her a decent chance to defeat Pat McCrory in a rematch.

Instead, she'll be the first North Carolina governor since succession was granted in the 1970s to retire after a first term.

To withdraw at this relatively late hour is additionally strange.

I hope there is not a health issue, but we'll learn more later today.

Who could run in her place?

State Rep. Bill Faison, D-Orange, has been making moves for months, but he's little known around the state.

Democrats need a heavyweight, like Attorney General Roy Cooper or Sen. Kay Hagan.

Update: Cooper says no.

Lt. Gov. Walter Dalton has been gearing up his re-election campaign but he's been a barely visible LG — in large part because of a limited working relationship with Perdue.

Whoever wants the governor's job won't have the luxury of waiting very long to get started, so we'll know soon.

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rooster8786

January 26, 2012 - 12:29 pm EST

Why is such a shocker? For such a strong back boned democrat, who barely won 4 years ago, who can read the "tea leaves" and see defeat, why fight, lose, and risk being further labeled loser. She can obviously see she has lost the support of NC residents, can see what has happened to multiple "supporters" and peers, and knows that for the foreseeable future NC will apparently be run by more conservative Republicans. The tax & spend, buy votes with entitlement programs, ways are soon to be over and maybe NC can move ahead...

jcpole

January 26, 2012 - 12:32 pm EST

Kay Hagan is a HEAVYWEIGHT??

She is just another liberal who believes she was elected to be obama's representative, rather than a representative for the people of North Carolina.

Doug

January 26, 2012 - 12:35 pm EST

Of course it's a shocker. How often do officeholders decline to run for re-election just because they're down in the polls? Very few simply give up. Things can always turn around.

Doug

January 26, 2012 - 12:45 pm EST

Yes, Hagan is a political heavyweight. She has never lost an election: five for state senate, one for U.S. Senate with a strong majority. Having successfully run a statewide election would give her an advantage over candidates who had not.

Updating the story, Roy Cooper says he won't run; Walter Dalton says he probably will.

As for her being a "representative" of Obama, I answered a similar statement by listing instances where she has voted contrary to the majority Democratic position.

In general, however, she has been supportive of Obama positions -- not so odd because the people of North Carolina supported both her and Obama in the 2008 election.

Mark

January 26, 2012 - 9:23 pm EST

Doug, there you go again. I thought that this thread was about Governor Dumplin' headed off to the dreaded private sector, but you got off track singing Senator Kay's praises- AGAIN.

The reason that Hagan won five races for the NC State Senate was that she ran in a senate district that was drawn by Democrats in Raleigh (among them, the soon-to-be ex-Rep. Brad Miller, who was responsible for creating the odious 13th CD) to elect a Democrat. A dead cat could have won in that district, as long as said cat was a Democrat. To wit, Don Vaughan, the current occupant of that seat, is, like Hagan, an assembly line liberal attorney who only knows two things: tax & spend. The fact that a hack like Vaughan was able to win reelection to that seat in 2010 when the GOP was making history by taking control of the NC legislature for the first time in over one hundred years, tells you all you need to know about the make up of that district.

Yes, Hagan defeated Elizabeth Dole for the US Senate in 2008, but if you really look at it, any Democrat would have beaten Dole that year. Dole hadn't lived in the state since the early 60's, and made no real pretense of actually residing here. She was never really popular during her lone term, and when you factor in the fact that 2008 was the worst election cycle for the GOP since the post-Watergate 1974 elections, Dole had no chance. That and $18,000,000.00 from left wing special interest groups will buy you a Senate seat. Hagan happened to be in the right place at the right time- nothing more.

You and I have debated Hagan's "centrism" and "business friendly" positions on another thread- she is NO political heavyweight, Doug- not even close. You must drinking the same Kool-Aid that Mark Binker, Rosemary Roberts, and Allen Johnson have been imbibing. Your paper's fascination with this limousine liberal is amazing.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot- don't go away mad, Dumplin'; just go away.

Doug

January 27, 2012 - 9:18 am EST

You've got your mind so firmly set it doesn't matter what facts are presented in opposition. You simply refuse to consider any other point of view.

Yes, there are gerrymandered districts designed to favor one party or the other. You could point to almost any member of the state legislature, Democrat or Republican, and say they were elected only because of a soft district. That's not an argument per se against the political strength or effectiveness of any of them.

Yes, Hagan was elected to the U.S. Senate in a strong year for Democrats, but she also won a lot more votes than did Perdue or Obama, and, unlike either of them, she was running against an incumbent. Dole had plenty of money of her own, and she began the race way ahead in the polls. Hagan ran a strong campaign to beat her.

It doesn't look like Hagan is interested in running for governor, but I was analyzing which Democrats would present a credible campaign. One who served 10 years in the state Senate and has already won a statewide election seems to me to be a logical candidate. I think any objective, reasonable analysis would conclude that Hagan would be one of the strongest possible candidates the Democrats could put up. Your response to that is simply a knee-jerk partisan reaction that reflects a complete lack of objective analysis.

Mark

January 27, 2012 - 11:40 pm EST

So anyone that believes that Hagan is not a political heavyweight is a "knee-jerk partisan" and not being objective, Doug? If I was so partisan, then why would I write that Liddy Dole was a carpetbagger and not popular? Dole was a celebrity, and her ego caused her to think that she would just waltz to reelection, even though she never really resided in the state, nor did she really bother with spending enough time with us little people in North Carolina. Come to think of it, the only time she spent time here was when she was campaigning; she lived at the Watergate, for crying out loud.

In your opinion, anyone who believes that Kay Hagan is not a "heavyweight" is wrong. Having lived in her state senate district, it was like pulling teeth getting a response from her office in Raleigh. I understand that that pattern has continued since she was elected to the US Senate; Howard Coble she is not. Did you happen to catch her performance at an appearance at some town hall meeting in Kernersville where some people had the nerve to question her support of the Obama healthcare monstrosity? Unless Kay has her DNC talking points in front of her, she is not good speaking off-the-cuff. All I hear from her is how her "number one priority is jobs,jobs,jobs" and she is going to help "working families" and provide "tax relief for middle class families"; funny, we could have used a middle class tax cut when she was in the NC Senate, but all we got during her tenure on the finance committee in the General Assembly was more tax increases, more spending, and more unemployment. It looks as though she is continuing to do the same in Washington.

You mention that Hagan won her race against an incumbent (Dole), whereas Obama and Perdue did not have to take on incumbents in their races. True, but as I mentioned earlier, Dole's support was "a mile wide and an inch deep" as some pudit put it during the campaign. Plus, Dole's ad about Hagan attending a fundraiser that was hosted by an atheist couple completely backfired, and was one of the most ill-conceived political ads in recent memory; that ad probably added to Hagan's margin of victory.

Another reason that Hagan's margin of victory exceeded those of Obama and Perdue was the fact that they were running against very seasoned and popular polticians. Pat McCrory was consistently in the lead (in all polls) in his race with Perdue, albeit by a narrow margin, right up to election day. No one benefitted more from Obama's coattails than Perdue; it was his campaign's exceptional get-out-the-vote ground game that registered thousands of first-time voters that simply pulled the "D" lever. Let's face it, the overwhelming number of them were there to vote for Obama, and they weren't about to split their tickets. Obama's slim margin of victory (14,000 votes) was due to a number of factors. One factor was that North Carolina has not been friendly territory to Democrats running for President; Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat to win the state, and that was in 1976. Second, Obama was one of the most left-wing candidates that the Democrats have nominated in recent memory, and with North Carolina being a relatively conservative state, he was never going to win in a landslide here, even in a favorable election cycle like 2008. Third, unfortunately, there are still some voters who probably would not vote for a minority for high office (and they're not all Republicans); that factor probably held down his winning margin. Lastly, Hagan was endorsed by virtually every daily newspaper in this state, whereas Obama and Perdue did not have that going for them (why, the N&R actually endorsed McCrory for governor); even in this digital age, there are some that are still swayed by newspaper endorsements.

Is that "objective" enough for you, Doug? Believe it or not, there are many people like me that have never been impressed by Kay Hagan, not then, and not now. I know that may be hard for you people on East Market Street to believe, but it's true.

Jon

January 26, 2012 - 12:43 pm EST

I wonder if it's something else such as health, personal. Guess we'll all know in a short while.

AG Cooper won't be running in her place. Came out with a statement this morning. Says he enjoys what he's doing.

First time since the beginning of time, strong chance the Republican's will crontrol the legislature and governorship.

Doug

January 26, 2012 - 12:46 pm EST

She did not mention anything about health in her statement, so I'm happy about that.

As for the election, a lot of Dems think they'll be stronger with a different candidate.

nc84

January 26, 2012 - 1:12 pm EST

Any word from Erskin Bowles?! That would be my choice over Dalton or Faison. Though Bowles hasn't had much success in the polls, I think that he would be the best candidate
.

Doug

January 26, 2012 - 1:18 pm EST

No word. He would be a very good candidate, although after losing two Senate races, he may be shy about another campaign. I'd like to see him become budget director for the next president, whether it's Obama again or a Republican.

stafford5465

January 26, 2012 - 1:13 pm EST

There was one Republican Governor that elected not to run for a second term. Beverly was not the first.

nc84

January 26, 2012 - 1:14 pm EST

Wasn't that guy the president of Hardees or something....

Doug

January 26, 2012 - 1:16 pm EST

Jim Gardner was lieutenant governor, never governor.

I'm referring to modern times. Jim Hunt in 1980 was the first governor who was eligible to run for a second consecutive term. The only Republican governor since then was Jim Martin, and he did successfully run for re-election in 1988.

Connie Mack Jr

January 26, 2012 - 2:52 pm EST

I am shocked, overwhelm, I didn't see it coming, it's a stunner, nobody told me about it..I just can't believe it, maybe she will change her mind, * Paraphasing Doug

LOL.. I told you about her hitting the road about week ago on your own blog right here!!! Check it out. which proves you don''t believe one "nutty" comspiracy theory that comes true or you are blind as a Bat like Newt Gringrich when it comes to counting how many wives he has... Now for the good news, the world ends next week and you escape from the Planet to become the editorial editor for the Moon Bean News funded by Newt Gringrich secret super PAC

Doug Johnson

January 26, 2012 - 6:47 pm EST

Bill Faison unknown?
He made big times news, he was the first person, I know of that called for illegals to get in state tuition.
I think? you wrote about it!
Check it out if you keep, your writngs.

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