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Hinson lawsuit can serve positive purpose

"I've seen the book and know for a fact that he's not in it and the city knows he's not in it. This lawsuit says he is. That should give people pause about the credibility of this lawsuit."

That statement by Seth Cohen, attorney for former police Chief David Wray Correction: Randall Brady to the N&R's J. Brian Ewing Correction: Not Brian tells me Wray plans a vigorous defense against the allegations of racial discrimination lodged by Lt. James Hinson.

Will the city, also a defendant, put up a similar defense?

This lawsuit can serve a very positive purpose if, by going to trial, it sheds light on the longstanding allegations that the Police Department under Wray's leadership was rife with racial discrimination. It's time to air it all out, lay the facts on the table and make on objective determination.

A settlement in this case would be disappointing.

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Sidney Gray (imported)

May 31, 2008 - 12:14 pm EDT

There has been alot of print written on this sad chapter. I have maintained that this issue should be settled in a court of law not by politicians and the media. I am waiting for Chief Wray's suit. Sidney

Billy The Blogging Poet (imported)

May 31, 2008 - 5:14 pm EDT

The city will settle as there is no way they'll allow the truth to come out. This whole affair is looking more and more like a case of blackmail by police officers against "city leaders."

John Robinson (imported)

June 1, 2008 - 8:30 am EDT

Doug, a couple corrections: Seth is Randall Brady's attorney, not former Chief Wray's. Seth said that to either Sonja Elmquist or Ryan Seals. I don't think Brian had anything to do with the reporting of that story.

Skeet Club Savage (imported)

June 1, 2008 - 12:10 pm EDT

The fact he's only asking for twenty grand is kind of curious. Even if Hinson's lawyer is working gratis, that's still not even enough money to even buy a good car but seemingly low enough that they know the city will settle. (unless he plans on making his dough on the group discrimination suit by all the black officers.etc.)

Will be interesting to see if the city will just roll over. Although it could be a legal ploy since if the city settles it may be an admission of guilt of sorts which could maybe aid the group action above.

If they were going after the city on principle or damage to Hinson's rep why would they ask for just 20G?

Doug (imported)

June 1, 2008 - 8:53 pm EDT

Thanks, John. The dangers of posting on a Saturday.

skeet club savage (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 9:03 am EDT

If this case was occuring in a vaccum without all this other baggage I would say just give Hinson the 20g. After all, he was never charged, the surveillence was obviously botched, resulting in embarrassment to the force /city and Hinson. Sometimes you just got to pay the piper. Because of all this other stuff, the city may have to fight this.

BB (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 10:52 am EDT

Hinson should not be awarded any money in
this lawsuit at all ! ! ! This man is a real eye
sore to the badge and to the Greensboro City
Police Department. If he ever responded to a
call at my home I would request that another
officer respond. { I don't even think of this man
as a Lt. so to me, he's just officer Hinson }
Hinson should pack his bags and move to
another city or state. ! How one officer can get
away with so much is totally amazing to me. I've
been in the law enforcement & armed security
management field for 30 years in two states and
have worked for 4 to 5 medium sized law
enforcement agencies. This man would have
been long gone from each one. ! When this
civil trial begins I would be more then happy to
come forward and explain an incident that took
place sometime back in either 1999 or 2000
involving then Sergeant Hinson and the issue
of his "CREDIBILITY" !

Thanks, Ben B.

BB (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 10:53 am EDT

Hinson should not be awarded any money in
this lawsuit at all ! ! ! This man is a real eye
sore to the badge and to the Greensboro City
Police Department. If he ever responded to a
call at my home I would request that another
officer respond. { I don't even think of this man
as a Lt. so to me, he's just officer Hinson }
Hinson should pack his bags and move to
another city or state. ! How one officer can get
away with so much is totally amazing to me. I've
been in the law enforcement & armed security
management field for 30 years in two states and
have worked for 4 to 5 medium sized law
enforcement agencies. This man would have
been long gone from each one. ! When this
civil trial begins I would be more then happy to
come forward and explain an incident that took
place sometime back in either 1999 or 2000
involving then Sergeant Hinson and the issue
of his "CREDIBILITY" !

Thanks, Ben B.

Jonathan Jones (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 12:17 pm EDT

Skeet,

Hinson is asking for at least $10,000 on two different theories (punitive and compensatory) of damages. That's where the $20,000 figure in the story comes from.

A claim for $10,000 is the minimum to get into Superior Court in North Carolina. I'm sure that should this thing make it in front of a jury, his attorneys would ask for far more than $20,000 in damages.

skeet club savage (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 1:55 pm EDT

Thank you, JJ. So you're saying 20g is just some type of minimum figure?

DB (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 1:56 pm EDT

There are many officers on the GPD who know the FULL truth. Hinson has manipulated his career by being a racist himself. He has persuaded many black officers to follow his racist lead. Ben B. said it best, if Hinson had been an officer in other police departments he'd have long been gone. If the citizens of Greesnboro were aware of the "back room deals" and people who have been "hushed" in the GPD, they would be astounded. There is more then enough evidence out here to disprove Hinsons claims. I just hope our city officials will finally let the truth come out. No doubt, it will cause problems along racial lines here, but, the truth IS WHAT IT IS !!
The longer the city tries to run and hide from the truth, the worse this whole situation will become. The day has come, police officers who have in one way or another been "convinced" to stay out of this, are going to speak out and be heard. Many officers are tired of being put in the middle of Hinsons racist propaganda. I can guarantee, city officials do not want these officers talking about what really goes on. The police department in years past was a brotherhood. Each officer looking out for the other. Ask around today, most younger officers want out and those near retirement are just keeping their mouths closed for fear ANYTHING said by them will result in loss of benefits. Thank God there are some who now are ready to come forward, regardless of the outcome, hoping for justice and to set the record straight. The days of Hinsons underhanded tactics within the dept. are going to be exposed. It would be nice to work/live in an environment that is not so fearful and biased.

DB

Jonathan Jones (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 2:34 pm EDT

Yes Skeet. That $20,000 is the minimum he's seeking. A Superior Court could rule in his favor and give him less than that. There are cases where someone wins and only gets $1.

But essentially he's saying that he's owed at least $20,000 -- $10,000 for compensation and $10,000 as punishment for the city's actions.

Doug (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 2:48 pm EDT

From each defendant, counselor (in training)?

Jonathan Jones (imported)

June 2, 2008 - 11:44 pm EDT

I believe so. Not sure, though.

Maybe a lawyer can answer that.

odb (imported)

June 3, 2008 - 1:16 am EDT

To DB and BB,

It is amazing that you guys say that the is guilty. I have one question for both of you if the FBI,and SbI couldnt prove that Lt Hinson did any wrong doing why do you think you have something on him that they couldnt find. The man is a good man that comes from a great family, how would you feel if someone ruin your BB and DB that effected your children and your family.

skeet club savage (imported)

June 3, 2008 - 9:04 am EDT

ODB, what does the FBI or SBI have on Wray?

DB (imported)

June 3, 2008 - 10:19 pm EDT

ODB, like I said, The truth IS WHAT IT IS !!!!
I assume you never worked w/ Hinson. As far as his family goes, his ex wife especially, knows what he is all about. The truth will come out soon. As far as the FBI and SBI investigation goes, JUST YOU WAIT. It's not over yet!!!

ODB (imported)

June 4, 2008 - 12:13 am EDT

First skeet club savage, I never said a thing about Wray, whatever happen with him is not my concern. The man has not done anything to me but I guess the powers to be felt like he did something and that was proving. And DB I have known Lt Hinson for almost twenty years, he can rub people the wrong way but he has done alot for kids in guilford county. But he is not a bad cop you either like him or you dont but I can promise you that he has done no wrong and nothing is going to happen later. All cops can be a butt sometimes and that is not black or white.

skeet club savage (imported)

June 4, 2008 - 10:02 am EDT

ODB, it just seemed you were using FBI/SBI as a criteria for wrongdoing.

DB (imported)

June 5, 2008 - 12:07 am EDT

ODB, and how many of the kids Hinson has "done a lot for" were white? That in itself will show his racism

DB (imported)

June 5, 2008 - 12:26 am EDT

ODB, I couldn't resist. You're earlier statement about Hinson's wonderful family, etc. I assume you were also speaking highly of his ex wife Beverly. You know the one who just got 6 YEARS minimum and a hefty fine for "check kiting" in a Guilford Co. Court on Wednesday?
Good upstanding people alright, not to mention the great role models they are for all those kids they've helped!!! Get real!

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